Zhavric's First Issue
This is Zhavric's first issue. Yes, I know you guys are just in the planning phase, but this issue is going to be universal for any genre. It goes something like this:
Character 1:"I do (insert cool power) to you and it kills you. HA! You're dead."
Character 2: "No, I'm not dead. I do (insert cool power) which counters your thing. I kill you instead. You're the dead one."
Character 1:"Am not! You are!"
Character 2:"Am not! You are!"
etc.
My suggestion on how to avoid this:
1) With rules. We pick an RPG that already exists and use the system. The benefit is we have clearly defined rules of what characters can do. The drawback is that we have set rules that may not translate well onto an online forum.
2) Without rules. There is no rules system and all characters are effectively equal. Moderators / storytellers are in charge of resolving conflict. The benefit is more freedom to be creative. The drawback is that the mods usually end up drinking heavily and listening to people whine.
3) Role-playing: You put an emphasis on the story to try to get players to care about keeping the story going. Think of it as an RPG "honor system". If it works, we could have some really great role-playing. The problem is that it only takes one person to ruin it.
Your thoughts?
On the RP boards I've been on its more RP based. You can't move or harm another person's character without their consent. Period.
That said, I've had lovely bar brawls and duels, why? because its hella fun. To use your spiffy cool powers on another player you'd have to pm or im them.. hey I was hoping to do this.. is that ok with you? It keeps down power gamers as well because if someone is constantly trying to be a bad ass then people will just reply... no, dude, its not ok.
Ours generally looked something like this.
Ranya (poor guy never did get to RP but I use him as an example all the time) narrowed his eyes at Keenan while fingering his jaw. Damn that hurt! Watching for an opening, he took the first opportunity that presented itself and slammed his fist into the man's gut. Not the definitive move he was hoping for but perhaps he'd manage to stay up right long enough to get a better one in later.
((OOC: Permission granted to punch Keenan))
I'm not sure what will be used but I've been very impressed with the people on the board so far so I think something loose like this would work fine, letting people moderate their own fun between themselves.
I do agree that there should be some standard of rules and it does need to be decided to what degree those rules are enforced. I believe that the goal and style of this board is more of a story developed by the entire community rather than "I attack you with my ogre slaying knife which has a +7 against ogres." See previous Mafia games for examples of what I mean. Of course, that could just be all in my head, but I'm taking an educated guess.
The staff has been back and forth with a lot of ideas as far as the basic framework for our vampire world and I think we're developing a great starting point. So far we've touched on the structure of the vampire community and the "types" of vampires that can exist (we all know the idea of a vampire tends to change depends on who's holding the pen).
So, yes, I do believe we will be employing some type of ruleset and I'm sure it will be a major topic of discussion for the staff, but I think at this point we're just trying to get an idea for the type of world we are creating so we know what kinds of rules we will need.
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And that's the computer mouse.. for you pervs out there.. you know who you are.
gaia online is godforsakeningly confusing with its a million posts and people who cant type english well.
didnt think of that before, but you could pull ideas of how things are for other rp forums just by skimming over gaia.
What's god modding?
I wondered too, but from reading Maewyn's post, I guess god modding is moving someone's character. Its apparently taboo to touch a live character with out permission from that person. Like I couldnt kill ryala's toon while she was at work.
To be honest, other than clan rivalry, I hope that we only end up killing NPC's. I'm looking forward to having longer interactive storylines with other players.
An example of this on the Harry Potter boards were the first year students who could summon large objects like beds, float multiple things in the air, instantly know how to fly, and never lose a duel.
In a standard scene it might be the person who faces armed opponents and using his l33t karate skills manages to take down 8 men without a scratch on him while performing arial acrobatics that would make a circus performer envious.
Aka.. not very likely at all. They are the people that can't stand to ever be wrong, ever look bad or ever not be in control.
Basically a Mod's worst nightmare to deal with. Almost always really bad RPers as well because a good RPer would realize not succeeding is in many cases more interesting and challenges help define your character.